Comments on: Police in Fens Cause Concern for Gay Rights http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/ Fenway News Online Community Newspaper Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Walking through the Fens at night? “Don’t.” « Ninth Inning Blues http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-18389 Walking through the Fens at night? “Don’t.” « Ninth Inning Blues Wed, 15 Dec 2010 01:34:43 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-18389 [...] park as well. It has long been known as a popular gay cruising area, and BPD has had to deal with complaints from various organizations concerned with civil [...] [...] park as well. It has long been known as a popular gay cruising area, and BPD has had to deal with complaints from various organizations concerned with civil [...]

]]> By: Residentqueer http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-14575 Residentqueer Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:50:48 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-14575 Some of us are queer and lifelong Fenway residents. I do not use the park for sex, but I do not mind people doing so. What I object to is essentially vandalism which can be committed by anyone straight or gay, though I admit of a higher probability of it being a gay person in the fens at night. If people threw away their trash appropriately and didn't break garden fences it would be relatively peaceful. I also object to the drug dealing element. I am happy to see increased police visibility in the gardens. If they unfairly harass peaceable gay men, then we'll have to work with them until they can tell the difference. I do not want to see the reeds cut down as they constitute an eco-system which I value. Contrary to popular belief the water is very clean and home to turles and frogs and fish and herons who need the reeds to protect them. As a nature conservancy, I would think it would be illegal to cut those down. More trash barrels in the back area would probably help as there are none now. Some of us are queer and lifelong Fenway residents. I do not use the park for sex, but I do not mind people doing so. What I object to is essentially vandalism which can be committed by anyone straight or gay, though I admit of a higher probability of it being a gay person in the fens at night. If people threw away their trash appropriately and didn’t break garden fences it would be relatively peaceful. I also object to the drug dealing element. I am happy to see increased police visibility in the gardens. If they unfairly harass peaceable gay men, then we’ll have to work with them until they can tell the difference. I do not want to see the reeds cut down as they constitute an eco-system which I value. Contrary to popular belief the water is very clean and home to turles and frogs and fish and herons who need the reeds to protect them. As a nature conservancy, I would think it would be illegal to cut those down. More trash barrels in the back area would probably help as there are none now.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-9297 Anonymous Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:50:51 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-9297 Gay or straight, no one should be f*cking in the reeds- show soem consideration for your fellow citizens, get a room. Support your local police. Gay or straight, no one should be f*cking in the reeds- show soem consideration for your fellow citizens, get a room.

Support your local police.

]]> By: Will http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-8946 Will Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:21:58 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-8946 First of all...I AM NOT going to hide behind the word "Anonymous" because I'm too much of a pussy to speak out...I go by Will. Second, for all the offended homosexuals out there...YOU DON'T GO TO THE FENS AT NIGHT BECAUSE THE VIEW IS PRETTY...You go there to fuck, do your drugs, and drink as much as you can. For your information any form of sex is considered lewd and lucivious...even Heteral sex. But, I don't see a park where straight people fuck all night and get all offended when cops catch them in the act...and bitch and scream about how its because their straight. WAKE UP and realize your doing something wrong and possibly quite offensive....Don't go running to attorneys who can swear by their practice THAT IF IT'S NOT SEEN THAT ITS NOT WRONG. Fucking morons ....leave it to the money grubbing lawyers.... First of all…I AM NOT going to hide behind the word “Anonymous” because I’m too much of a pussy to speak out…I go by Will.
Second, for all the offended homosexuals out there…YOU DON’T GO TO THE FENS AT NIGHT BECAUSE THE VIEW IS PRETTY…You go there to fuck, do your drugs, and drink as much as you can. For your information any form of sex is considered lewd and lucivious…even Heteral sex. But, I don’t see a park where straight people fuck all night and get all offended when cops catch them in the act…and bitch and scream about how its because their straight. WAKE UP and realize your doing something wrong and possibly quite offensive….Don’t go running to attorneys who can swear by their practice THAT IF IT’S NOT SEEN THAT ITS NOT WRONG. Fucking morons ….leave it to the money grubbing lawyers….

]]> By: Jennine Dooling http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-3644 Jennine Dooling Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:25:05 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-3644 Well, this site looks way more professional than my google blog. I think I might use Wordpress aswell.What do you think? Regards. Well, this site looks way more professional than my google blog. I think I might use WordPress aswell.What do you think? Regards.

]]> By: Ed Marten http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-2737 Ed Marten Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:06:34 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-2737 It is a civil rights issue. In fact, as long as the sexual activity is out of sight (ie: in the reeds, esp at night), it is NOT illegal. This, according to a Mass SJC decision regarding public sex with the reasonable expectation of privacy. NEVER cede ground unnecessarily to the state authorty (ie: police and/or city/state/fed govn't). It is always a matter of giving up personal liberty, autonomy which you WILL NOT GET BACK. The few gardeners who run to the city are spoiled middle-class brats who can't fend for themselves. If you have an issue with the few incidents of feces, condoms, and needles (and I know the problem is not as widespread as these people claim it to be), then address it yourself. If you see the public sex or drug use (which you most likely don't, as it isn't really done in the OPEN), then address the people yourself. Quit running to the police. If you are gay, shame on you for turning on other gay people in this way. At some point, it's YOU who will be the criminal, mark my words. Kissing up to state authority in the name of safety only contributes to state authority and gives power to the police to abuse that authority, which they inevitably will. Stop being such crybabys and think and act for yourselves for once. It is a civil rights issue. In fact, as long as the sexual activity is out of sight (ie: in the reeds, esp at night), it is NOT illegal. This, according to a Mass SJC decision regarding public sex with the reasonable expectation of privacy. NEVER cede ground unnecessarily to the state authorty (ie: police and/or city/state/fed govn’t). It is always a matter of giving up personal liberty, autonomy which you WILL NOT GET BACK. The few gardeners who run to the city are spoiled middle-class brats who can’t fend for themselves. If you have an issue with the few incidents of feces, condoms, and needles (and I know the problem is not as widespread as these people claim it to be), then address it yourself. If you see the public sex or drug use (which you most likely don’t, as it isn’t really done in the OPEN), then address the people yourself. Quit running to the police. If you are gay, shame on you for turning on other gay people in this way. At some point, it’s YOU who will be the criminal, mark my words. Kissing up to state authority in the name of safety only contributes to state authority and gives power to the police to abuse that authority, which they inevitably will. Stop being such crybabys and think and act for yourselves for once.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-63 Anonymous Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:12:29 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-63 What does discrimination have to do with a clean and safe Victory Garden? People of all walks of life live and garden in the Fenway. They all deserve to have a clean and safe park. We do not know who leaves condoms and feces in the aisles but until they stop this activity residents will continue to demand the police be active in the park. The people being abused and discriminated against are the gardeners and the residents of the Fenway. What does discrimination have to do with a clean and safe Victory Garden? People of all walks of life live and garden in the Fenway. They all deserve to have a clean and safe park. We do not know who leaves condoms and feces in the aisles but until they stop this activity residents will continue to demand the police be active in the park. The people being abused and discriminated against are the gardeners and the residents of the Fenway.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-62 Anonymous Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:13:44 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-62 It's easy for straight people to say "get a room," but if you are not gay, then you will never know all of the different levels gay people face discrimination. The litter is just a scapegoat, because even if it wasn't there, people would still find something else to blame gay people for. It's easy for straight people to say "get a room," but if you are not gay, then you will never know all of the different levels gay people face discrimination. The litter is just a scapegoat, because even if it wasn't there, people would still find something else to blame gay people for.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Anonymous Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:22:49 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-61 Fenway residents are completely fed up with the disgusting situation in this section of the park - used condoms, needles, human waste, guys having sex in the open, drug use/dealing, prostitution, you name it. This is NOT a civil rights issue. It's a public safety/health issue. The park that we support with our hard earned tax dollars should be safe and clean and for EVERYONE to enjoy. The park is not the personal property of the few who have taken it over for use as a toilet (literally). ENOUGH with the ridiculous, pathetic civil rights whining. Fenway residents are completely fed up with the disgusting situation in this section of the park – used condoms, needles, human waste, guys having sex in the open, drug use/dealing, prostitution, you name it. This is NOT a civil rights issue. It's a public safety/health issue. The park that we support with our hard earned tax dollars should be safe and clean and for EVERYONE to enjoy. The park is not the personal property of the few who have taken it over for use as a toilet (literally). ENOUGH with the ridiculous, pathetic civil rights whining.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-60 Anonymous Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:27:32 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-60 As a Fenway resident who was mugged in the Fens in the afternoon, I fully support the increased police presence. The area around the Victory Gardens is well-known for being unsafe and I'm grateful that the City is finally addressing this long ignored problem. In addition to increased police presence, the reeds must be cut down. They provide a safe haven for a variety of criminal activity, which is unacceptable in our park. As a Fenway resident who was mugged in the Fens in the afternoon, I fully support the increased police presence. The area around the Victory Gardens is well-known for being unsafe and I'm grateful that the City is finally addressing this long ignored problem. In addition to increased police presence, the reeds must be cut down. They provide a safe haven for a variety of criminal activity, which is unacceptable in our park.

]]> By: Junky http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Junky Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:18:16 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-59 When I first moved into the neighborhood, I made the mistake of looking for a shortcut through Fens. There were men, down by the reeds, at 7:30am, ready to go. Call me a romantic, but is getting a room that bad? Or, how about joining a hiking club? I think it's a respect issue--these men don't live in the neighborhood, so who cares? Right? Meetup at the Machine, get drunk, high, walk out with some guy to the park, screw him in the reeds, throw your condom in somebody else's garden and then complain about how unfair the world is and that the police are picking on you. When I first moved into the neighborhood, I made the mistake of looking for a shortcut through Fens. There were men, down by the reeds, at 7:30am, ready to go. Call me a romantic, but is getting a room that bad? Or, how about joining a hiking club? I think it's a respect issue–these men don't live in the neighborhood, so who cares? Right? Meetup at the Machine, get drunk, high, walk out with some guy to the park, screw him in the reeds, throw your condom in somebody else's garden and then complain about how unfair the world is and that the police are picking on you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Anonymous Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:37:53 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-58 can I cruise you John? can I cruise you John?

]]> By: john http://www.fenwaynews.org/crime/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-57 john Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:12:38 +0000 http://fnsupertest.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/police-in-fens-cause-concern-for-gay-rights#comment-57 The next time a gay guy gets assulted in the Fens then the gay community will say that the police aren't protecting them. Seems to be that the gay community is being selfish here and just wants to protect one part of their life style which includes cruising. The next time a gay guy gets assulted in the Fens then the gay community will say that the police aren't protecting them. Seems to be that the gay community is being selfish here and just wants to protect one part of their life style which includes cruising.

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